Carville talks about JD Vance, Trump and the looming constitutional crisis between the White House and the courts. (part 2 of 2 of this episode). Due to tech issues, I had to get creative on this one.
exactly! Pete, AOC, Jasmine Crockett... Jim needs to shake off legacy news media and get with the times and rise to the grave danger we are in. Bring current, fierce badasses on here that aren't going to tell us to just 'retreat.' Jim, you are Independent media now. Step. It. Up. Interviews such as this one makes me want to not be a paid subscriber anymore. I mean no disrespect. You are brave for what you did by leaving and going Independent. I just don't have the strength of heart for this type of deflating, out of touch guest giving no good advice such as to 'retreat'. He might have well said 'kiss the ring' in my mind. I cannot sit through shows like this. We need fire in the belly and current, inspiring, fierce representation, guidance and energy.
Leslie, I guess you can tell a professional reporter with decades of experience how to do their job and that would be to make a show to your specifications or else there wont be another 5 dollars from you. Jim is the one who has the guts here. And this presumptuous critique is wrong. It's impetuous and also badly written. But still why don't you start your own show, Im sure you could catch a few flies. Imagine having to read the statement from you instructing a life long professional how to do what he has done extraordinarily well for so long. I am grateful Jim Acosta is here and lets the likes of you and me and the hundreds of opinionators with nothing to loose weigh in. And: Leslie, successful people, like Jim, do well for a many distinct reasons. Honesty, thoughtfulness and serious thinking and feeling are high on that list.
I can hear that Ariel. Your respect and in defense of him. I still feel the way I do. And I actually paid him $80 (which is no small thing for me), not $5 . I disagree with what I wrote being badly written and impetuous, but I can also understand why you felt it to be so considering my view upset you even though I let him know I meant no disrespect and I felt him brave for leaving legacy media and going Independent. My comment and others who clearly seem to agree, might help to inspire him, who knows. It's time to choose wisely. We don't have time or energy for messaging that tells us to 'retreat' in the face of grave consequences; it is the same thing as telling us to concede to a full fledge burgeoning dictatorship that cannot be undone. Thank you for speaking what is true for you. I spoke what feels right for me as well. The message on this show today is not what we need in any way and I stand by my response to it. I do, though, appreciate you sharing your thoughts.
Thank you for your response, Leslie. Yes, I understand and about the money being hard too.
Try to remember that Jim Acosta is putting himself, personally, on the line every single day.
We are living in an unprecedented time, these times call for action and clear thinking. No one has answers, everyone is over the edge with fear and none of us really knows what to do or how to make a difference or what steps are next.
Jim is doing something that matters a great deal to people. He’s reporting to us and he is also giving everyone a place to participate and a place to talk (or type)and question and share our thoughts and yes: get into dust ups. There are many counties that this discussion would not be possible.
Clearly there needs to be a march on Washington. I have yet to hear if anyone has started to organize that.
The people on the ground, Jim and our democratic senators are working over time and need our support. And our voice.
Hi Ariel, thank you, too. Yes, no one can do this alone. And we are fortunate to still, at least for now, have discussions like these so that we can be heard, can express ourselves with as much grace and clarity as possible, and come to understandings regardless of differences. These days, that's a lot! I appreciate your thoughtful response.
My red line was crossed some time ago the next step, civil disobedience. A Resistance based on the Declaration of Independence may be all that is left. The Trump puppeteers Heritage Foundation and Koch have thought this out, they will not back down. They have the keys to the kingdom. There are no checks and balances.
Yes. Pete is the most articulate speaker I have ever heard. He is as gifted as Obama was in oratory. He just joined Bluesky so look him up and let him know to come on this show!
virginia, you are right, it is unholy it is obscene and I personally believe the liar is the antichrist (at least when I asked Siri what the antichrist meant, she spewed Wikipedia to me and by God, it is the liar) truth will prevail but we have some hard times ahead and yes.we.can. because we.wont.go. back! stand tall
One last thing Jim: it’s good to keep wearing a suit jacket. Stay professional, relaxed but it show respect for your audience and your work. and it adds a layer of seriousness and quality.
Sorry James but doing nothing is not an option. We need to beat him at his own game. I firmly believe we should be marching in the streets. The Federal Employees should go on strike ..He can’t fire everyone..
With all due respect to James, I vehemently disagree. We cannot waste one more second doing nothing. I’m 60 and terrified for my 28 year old single daughter’s future. We knew this was coming. They wrote it down FFS! Tim Walz said you don’t write a 922 page playbook and not use it. Christian Nationalism is here, folks. That’s Project 2025. Real Handmaid’s Tale shit. These people view Trump as ordained by God. Never underestimate the lengths to which the religious fanatic will go to achieve power.
And one more thing. Again, I have the utmost respect for James and his opinions. However, he’s an 80 year old white guy. I really don’t think he can possibly comprehend the terror that this strikes in women and their mothers and grandmothers.
I am 6 years younger -- and disagree strongly with your critique of a person involving a reference to their age and race -- it is racist and ageism and hate combined -- a person's opinion if one you do not agree with is irrelevant to their age and race, we can disagree without displays of hate --
I would rather be amongst those who can communicate and disagree without references to age and race. It is offensive and aggressive. No one hears an argument that is framed in such a way. As an elder your reference to age offends me. I would hope that you care. We are not less than anyone when we age and there should be no open season of hate directed to any race or gender. Thank you.
As far as the age discussion contemplates our role in this. I personally am in favor of the older folks going to the front lines. If like me your body is 80% depreciated, we owe it to our children and grandchildren to become the cannon fodder for a huge effort. If we cannot get an organized effort going a small affect is better than no affect on the state of affairs. There still are Boomers, we must take responsibility for this mess.
If I have to be “cannon fodder” for my children, grandchildren and great grandchildren, I will. But please tell me the reason you are saying that we Boomers must “take responsibility for this mess.” I did not vote for trump either time.
Yeah, exactly. Vance is incredibly dangerous. He is one of these new kind of Catholic zealots with really fucked up ideas. He IS Project 2025. One of my theories is the Christian Nationalists will let him act a fool for a while then 25th amendment him. Then install THEIR Manchurian Candidate JD Vance. That is also terrifying.
Appreciate you bringing James Carville for an interview. We really need to hear from all generations their opinion of what is happening in our country today.
he is so freakiing wrong. love jame, off his game. We have zero time to waste and cannot wait until the liar punches himself in the face. omg. dead wrong James. dead wrong
James Carville is speaking from another century. He is 100% wrong. His suggestion to let it play out only works if others are playing by the rules. Jim’s question of what happens if “doing nothing” results in losing ground that cannot be gotten back hits at the heart of the matter. To which James replied, “yeah that’s a possibility.” Strategy like that is what’s gotten us in the mess we’re in. Thanks Jim for lighting the fire here.
I’m still wrestling with this. We don’t have enough people yet across the country who understand what’s going on. Of those who do, some of us strongly disagree and the MAGAs love it. We are not in a winnable position, yet. We have to have a better plan than being angry and calling Congress. People in Congress know perfectly well what is going on.
Protests will actually fuel MAGA self-righteousness and likely get people shot or imprisoned. We absolutely need to do something but we can’t flail around.
We are in the minority still but the strategy I believe is to find your local group of Democrats where you will find they are organized and need help getting out the word and rallying up awareness. I am attending my local group meeting in two weeks and I'm protesting locally at Plymouth Rock in Plymouth MA. Both events found thru a meeting with Common Cause which after the meeting hooked me up with all the local events and my local group of activists. Just sharing as it gives me some direction. No one can do this one alone.
I talked to my daughter tonight. She lives in Alabama and supports trump. I live in Virginia and I am a Democrat. We ended up fighting right off the bat. She said the people who were fired were not working, that they worked from home and did not do their jobs. 😳. I told her that was not true, that the Administration wanted to get rid of civil servants and that this was all laid out in Project 2025. She almost hung up on me. We switched to talking about my great grandsons. 🤦🏻♀️
I know I have brothers and sisters who are MAGA, and no word of politics can be exchanged. Once you have identified the MAGA, (first anyone who is in favor of freeing the White Supremacists who led the assault on the capitol,) you can only hope that they will be spared in this conflict.
I have those discussions with my 53 year old son I am 78 and we definitely disagree he is a member of the cult he is a truck driver and wants cheaper gas , I get so angry with him !I guess neither one of us will agree with each other !
Manager of the payroll department and a lot of other things for a huge trucking company. She is just like your son. However, Trump’s plans will hurt them eventually and they will wake up.
Jim, as well meaning as Carville may be, he is talking a bunch of irrelevancies while you have a five alarm fire happening in Washington. Steve Schmidt advances the thesis that Democrats must oppose everything that Trump is doing and negotiate nothing until musk has been removed and there has been compliance with court orders Listen to his most recent podcast as it is right on the money given the constitutional crisis which your country is now facing. Make no mistake, all of the chaos that Trump is creating is by design, and he will be soon saying he needs to be granted more power to control the chaos which he has created. This is a typical fascist tactic to consolidate power. Unfortunately, most Americans do not know history well, and so they are understandably befuddled with what is going on. But make no mistake, all mechanisms which your constitution can implement are required at this time and foremost among that given The Republican control of the Senate Congress and the conservative leaning court, it means the Democrats must stand up and oppose everything to Trump is doing and allow no money matters whatsoever to be passed by the Congress. If that means shutting down government, then so be it. As well I firmly believe that all well meaning American citizens must turn out in masses to oppose the chaos which Trump has created. Not to do so may well be a fatal blow to your constitution and your republic.
My hope and dream when we do, and we will, and it will be bloody, that our allies march along with us from their posts. If America falls other democracies will follow suit. We are obliged to overcome this threat to our democracy which has gone beyond a threat for our children and our allies. I hope our allies will support us and not judge us for our POTUS and the criminals who have been given access.
There is no room for error in governing. And there is not an option to stay home rather than vote for any election. The Republicans had the chance to impeach Trump after the obscenity that was January 6, and to the level he would be ineligible to run for any office. They dodged and obstructed Democrats from bringing it home. And many of us did not vote in what may have been the last free and fair election; the last we will ever enjoy.
So, here we are today, he is back and a clear an present danger who on day one when he pardoned the insurrectionists made it clear he is not governing a nation ruled by law and order and will not himself be constrained by any law. That action when he refuses to comply with any court order strikes at our democracy like a person hit with a fatal stroke. It's over. And we go to the streets. The push back will be cruel and bloody but my hope despite sadness it has come to this is we do it and succeed.
My hope is that the resistance can be organiz3ed quickly. Trump already has his brownshirts from teh pardoned Jan 6 crew of criminals and they are true believers in him. I truly hope that the American people who did not vote for what is now happening will quickly find some leadership in a younger generation of Democrats in Washington that will organize the resitance. But Schummer and Jeffries do not seem to have seen teh light on what is happending. Democrats do have power as GOP do not have only a slim majority in the house. Democrats must oppose, oppose, oppose before teh media every day and focus on the abuses of power and not be overwhelmed with teh distractions that Trump creates daily. Focus is critical. If Trump continues to flout the law and the courts then my hope would be the military who have taken an oath to the coonsitution would refuse any orders from the present POTUS - voices must ring out across your nation loud and clear so that people will hear and understand what is happening to your Republic under Trump. The current state of traditional media has unfortunately been co-opted by Trump and his oligraghs so it is up to the growing alternate media to carry the message loud and clear to the people. Many Canadians have been deeply offended by your current POTUS but we understand that he is a dangerous abberation in your country and a grave threat to democracies around teh world. Our western democracies must unite not against the United States but against your POTSU and support the American people who by the slimmist of margins voted the Anti-Christ into teh Whitehouse. Teh Democrats share in responsiblity for that but now is not the time to cast stones at them. It is time to fight for your democracy for your children and grandchildren.
Your comments are excellent guidance, and you were generous in putting so much time and thought into it. I will restack both your messages for more of us to see. The phones are ringing off the wall in Congress but as per AOC recent message we need to keep up the pressure.
The resistance is rising. We do have fight in our DNA and there is a visceral reaction to our freedom being attacked. We are unifying though. If anything, Trump has united the country, he and his media hacks so brilliantly had divided.
We were a different people before 2016. We could talk politics, and it was civil as well as a chance for a humorous jab no matter how passionate. I remember my parents never agreed on who to vote for in elections and I enjoy the memory of them going back and forth on issues. Mom had the best come backs. It was fun but they never missed a vote.
Trump divided us. It was a strategy conceived by Bannon who described it openly in an interview and proudly too. Fox News is ridiculous but very destructive. We are a large and diverse country, but we were united. As the old WWII adage went that my mother often repeated, "Now is the time for all good people to come to the aid of their country."
Together people across the globe can do anything. I don't know why I was born to see this time, and sadder still to see my child enter adulthood at this time, but we are resilient and indominable, and when we unite nothing will stop us. Everyone fears the army Trump has assembled will only add to the danger but we will come out of it okay.
One thing our representatives need to do is immediately start drafting legislature and changes that will prevent this from ever happening again. Our democracy and our Constitution have been tested. We must shore up both and make them stronger than before all this started.
Maybe you should do so also in Canada. There are weaknesses in what we wrongly believe is unbreakable until they are broken.
Thank you for your comment. I certainly cannot take credit for all the ideas presented many of which come from Steve Schmidt's Substack, which I recommend you check out. He has a great sense of history and provides thoughtful directions to fight against the ongoing coup in your country.
How is this helpful? Seriously Jim. This is Independent news now. This sounds like legacy media whitewashing. James is telling us to basically back off and 'Retreat.' So very dem of him. That's what they do. And that's why we are here in this unprecedented, unsurprising, yet devastating and terrifying moment in time. None of this is helpful. In fact, it's unacceptable. Invite AOC or Jasmine Crocket, Buttigieg, and/ or all of them. Invite Justin Jones on. No more 80 year old white men. Stop with this kind of interview. Forgive me for my crassness, but these are dire times and James participated greatly for the rise of corporate Democrats who are equally also profoundly responsible for the rise of rumpism. They (dems) are also Oligarchs, have been for a long time now. We need new fresh younger energy than James, with all due respect. This type of guest makes me want to unsubscribe from my upgrade, get a refund. This is no time to be messing around with guests on your show telling us to 'retreat.' I encourage you, Jim, to shake off quick the legacy media wiring and way, and if you are going to go Independent, please take cues from MeidasTouch and the rise of these, and other amazing trailblazers.
And Jim is not looking good to me to keep watching. Wish I could cancel my paid subscription. He needs to get with program that he's not on legacy media anymore and stop interviewing this old way dem. Ugh.
I think “old geezer” should come out of your sentence, but you are correct. This is not the same situation he faced back in day. Politicians were not like trump, whether Republican or Democrat.
yes, let's keep age out of this discussion -- I am six years younger than Mr. Carville -- how dare you call him and me by proxy an old geezer -- okay I'll forgive you -- but just making a point -- it is so tiring being defined by my age -- a number!
Yes, it's been mentioned today in The Atlantic article as well as in the Borowitz report, " even Richard Nixon complied with Court Orders" with Trump, no one knows if he will because DT believes he doesn't have to and has been successful already in acting ABOVE the Law.
Of course, Trump by not complying with a court order sets a precedent and sinks us into a state of living in a nation where democracy has fallen, and we are no longer ruled by law and order. Every POTUS is subjected to court orders. Some good Executive Orders (many written by Biden) are crushed in that way and not one POTUS has ever risked democracy over an Executive Order.
I am a Boomer, born in 1949. I won’t call myself a geezer. I am not young, obviously. I just believe in showing respect for people who have served us in the past. This an entirely different situation from anything anyone has experienced before. Trump has gone rogue. He should be treated as such.
I agree completely, Virginia. I learn when I listen it does not to me present a threat if someone else has another opinion. We need to learn how to have discussions. It is a discussion not a threat. And, look how lucky we are to be able to post during the discussion. I feel lucky at any rate. Born 1952.
I won't belabor the point.. Except I don't believe Carville has served us. Repeal of Glass-Steagall and Clinton's "welfare reform" were no gifts. Carville brought us a sexual predator and began the abandonment of the working class.
I don’t remember all of that. I was a Republican then. I became a Democrat in 2016 because I could not vote for sexual predator trump. I voted for Hillary.
I lived over that time. Nothing compares to Trump. Politics has always been a dirty business. But the subject is Trump today and the guest has a good reputation live a long life and has experience. I disagree with him but I'm not going to run him down just because I have an audience. It to me is like sneaking off to the kitchen while everyone is in the living room and gossiping about a guest. It just not good form. Sorry -- maybe I'm wrong. My instinct is to keep things civil and be civil toward our guest.
same generation only a bit younger than our guest, Mr. Carver -- but none of us should be called old geezers -- none of us -- especially if it is a disagreement -- this is a discussion -- everyone's voice counts -- even our guest -- especially a guest -- we get nowhere without civility -- just my preference personally -- civility
Mollys pet peeves, or as you prefer “old geezer” please keep ageism out of your insults of James Carville. Its deprecating and no different from any other bias or prejudice. You could make the argument on the substance even if you are a self identifying old geezer: that is no excuse for cheap shots!! Get your geezer on girl or you may lose the bingo prize and the rice pudding!! Thanks
Would love to see some fresh, credible voices, in the ring now, rising to this moment and inspiring people. I get that Carville is a classic guest. But was his message that America should just fold its tent? Failure is truly not an option.
AOC made an amazing view with advice on what we can do and how to do it. I love her. She knits while she speaks to her constituents and us. I'll locate it Klara and come back.
Jim your comments at the end were the best part of the show. We are fighting now for THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE. This must be our rallying cry. This “trumps” all are smaller (dare I say petty) grievances about social justice in all its myriad forms! NO.
THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE is under the jackboot of the religious fundamentalist crusaders and we must fight our way back. We are legion they are a few.
In our schools and especially HIGH SCHOOL -they are a minority we are legion
-In our civic activity and town centers and county seats state government
-they are a minority we are legion
-yes- our federal government—they are a minority we are legion
THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE
YES YES YES
WE WILL STAND UP AND BE COUNTED
. they who promote the anti American activity of hatred of others outside their radical ideologies are a minority We who are every day folk and lovers of our AMERICAN WAYNOF LIF are legion
And in your gentle informed way lead us by example, Jim. You did not run down our guest and instead made room for his opinion before firmly expressing to us your opinion with a bow toward Carter's admission of feeling panicked. A different opinion does not make another person my enemy. I can still hold my own and act on my own.
20 Attorney General led by Letitia James here in NYC have just dropped multiple lawsuits that stop Musk and compel him to destroy what info he stole from the Treasury. If Musk doesn't comply, I hope the order his arrest.
JIM PLEASE GET PETE BUTTAGEG ON
exactly! Pete, AOC, Jasmine Crockett... Jim needs to shake off legacy news media and get with the times and rise to the grave danger we are in. Bring current, fierce badasses on here that aren't going to tell us to just 'retreat.' Jim, you are Independent media now. Step. It. Up. Interviews such as this one makes me want to not be a paid subscriber anymore. I mean no disrespect. You are brave for what you did by leaving and going Independent. I just don't have the strength of heart for this type of deflating, out of touch guest giving no good advice such as to 'retreat'. He might have well said 'kiss the ring' in my mind. I cannot sit through shows like this. We need fire in the belly and current, inspiring, fierce representation, guidance and energy.
would love to see jasmine and aoc. firecrackers! love them
You must be reading this JIM> we know you are!:) let's get these people on, they will jump at it!
Yes!!
Leslie, I guess you can tell a professional reporter with decades of experience how to do their job and that would be to make a show to your specifications or else there wont be another 5 dollars from you. Jim is the one who has the guts here. And this presumptuous critique is wrong. It's impetuous and also badly written. But still why don't you start your own show, Im sure you could catch a few flies. Imagine having to read the statement from you instructing a life long professional how to do what he has done extraordinarily well for so long. I am grateful Jim Acosta is here and lets the likes of you and me and the hundreds of opinionators with nothing to loose weigh in. And: Leslie, successful people, like Jim, do well for a many distinct reasons. Honesty, thoughtfulness and serious thinking and feeling are high on that list.
I can hear that Ariel. Your respect and in defense of him. I still feel the way I do. And I actually paid him $80 (which is no small thing for me), not $5 . I disagree with what I wrote being badly written and impetuous, but I can also understand why you felt it to be so considering my view upset you even though I let him know I meant no disrespect and I felt him brave for leaving legacy media and going Independent. My comment and others who clearly seem to agree, might help to inspire him, who knows. It's time to choose wisely. We don't have time or energy for messaging that tells us to 'retreat' in the face of grave consequences; it is the same thing as telling us to concede to a full fledge burgeoning dictatorship that cannot be undone. Thank you for speaking what is true for you. I spoke what feels right for me as well. The message on this show today is not what we need in any way and I stand by my response to it. I do, though, appreciate you sharing your thoughts.
Thank you for your response, Leslie. Yes, I understand and about the money being hard too.
Try to remember that Jim Acosta is putting himself, personally, on the line every single day.
We are living in an unprecedented time, these times call for action and clear thinking. No one has answers, everyone is over the edge with fear and none of us really knows what to do or how to make a difference or what steps are next.
Jim is doing something that matters a great deal to people. He’s reporting to us and he is also giving everyone a place to participate and a place to talk (or type)and question and share our thoughts and yes: get into dust ups. There are many counties that this discussion would not be possible.
Clearly there needs to be a march on Washington. I have yet to hear if anyone has started to organize that.
The people on the ground, Jim and our democratic senators are working over time and need our support. And our voice.
No one person can do this alone.
Thanks for your thoughts here.
Good day.
Hi Ariel, thank you, too. Yes, no one can do this alone. And we are fortunate to still, at least for now, have discussions like these so that we can be heard, can express ourselves with as much grace and clarity as possible, and come to understandings regardless of differences. These days, that's a lot! I appreciate your thoughtful response.
My red line was crossed some time ago the next step, civil disobedience. A Resistance based on the Declaration of Independence may be all that is left. The Trump puppeteers Heritage Foundation and Koch have thought this out, they will not back down. They have the keys to the kingdom. There are no checks and balances.
Yes. And if and when that is all we have left, the message of advice to 'retreat' is not helpful.
I must agree. I didm tho k Carvelle added much to the conversation.
I second that! He would give us a younger perspective for the unholy situation we are in. No one has ever faced anything like this before.
Yes. Pete is the most articulate speaker I have ever heard. He is as gifted as Obama was in oratory. He just joined Bluesky so look him up and let him know to come on this show!
virginia, you are right, it is unholy it is obscene and I personally believe the liar is the antichrist (at least when I asked Siri what the antichrist meant, she spewed Wikipedia to me and by God, it is the liar) truth will prevail but we have some hard times ahead and yes.we.can. because we.wont.go. back! stand tall
One last thing Jim: it’s good to keep wearing a suit jacket. Stay professional, relaxed but it show respect for your audience and your work. and it adds a layer of seriousness and quality.
It's the damage Elon Muck is doing!
Sorry James but doing nothing is not an option. We need to beat him at his own game. I firmly believe we should be marching in the streets. The Federal Employees should go on strike ..He can’t fire everyone..
totally agree our country will be gone if we retreat
With all due respect to James, I vehemently disagree. We cannot waste one more second doing nothing. I’m 60 and terrified for my 28 year old single daughter’s future. We knew this was coming. They wrote it down FFS! Tim Walz said you don’t write a 922 page playbook and not use it. Christian Nationalism is here, folks. That’s Project 2025. Real Handmaid’s Tale shit. These people view Trump as ordained by God. Never underestimate the lengths to which the religious fanatic will go to achieve power.
And one more thing. Again, I have the utmost respect for James and his opinions. However, he’s an 80 year old white guy. I really don’t think he can possibly comprehend the terror that this strikes in women and their mothers and grandmothers.
I am 6 years younger -- and disagree strongly with your critique of a person involving a reference to their age and race -- it is racist and ageism and hate combined -- a person's opinion if one you do not agree with is irrelevant to their age and race, we can disagree without displays of hate --
Great! Thank you. Prove me wrong, please.
I would rather be amongst those who can communicate and disagree without references to age and race. It is offensive and aggressive. No one hears an argument that is framed in such a way. As an elder your reference to age offends me. I would hope that you care. We are not less than anyone when we age and there should be no open season of hate directed to any race or gender. Thank you.
As far as the age discussion contemplates our role in this. I personally am in favor of the older folks going to the front lines. If like me your body is 80% depreciated, we owe it to our children and grandchildren to become the cannon fodder for a huge effort. If we cannot get an organized effort going a small affect is better than no affect on the state of affairs. There still are Boomers, we must take responsibility for this mess.
If I have to be “cannon fodder” for my children, grandchildren and great grandchildren, I will. But please tell me the reason you are saying that we Boomers must “take responsibility for this mess.” I did not vote for trump either time.
I agree with you. This is a different animal. Vance announced a coup.
Yeah, exactly. Vance is incredibly dangerous. He is one of these new kind of Catholic zealots with really fucked up ideas. He IS Project 2025. One of my theories is the Christian Nationalists will let him act a fool for a while then 25th amendment him. Then install THEIR Manchurian Candidate JD Vance. That is also terrifying.
Him=Trump
Seriously. I’m 77 and feel the same way.
Appreciate you bringing James Carville for an interview. We really need to hear from all generations their opinion of what is happening in our country today.
I do not agree with him. We cannot sit idly by.
“I will not touch the fence” - Ella Blumenthal
he is so freakiing wrong. love jame, off his game. We have zero time to waste and cannot wait until the liar punches himself in the face. omg. dead wrong James. dead wrong
James Carville is speaking from another century. He is 100% wrong. His suggestion to let it play out only works if others are playing by the rules. Jim’s question of what happens if “doing nothing” results in losing ground that cannot be gotten back hits at the heart of the matter. To which James replied, “yeah that’s a possibility.” Strategy like that is what’s gotten us in the mess we’re in. Thanks Jim for lighting the fire here.
I’m still wrestling with this. We don’t have enough people yet across the country who understand what’s going on. Of those who do, some of us strongly disagree and the MAGAs love it. We are not in a winnable position, yet. We have to have a better plan than being angry and calling Congress. People in Congress know perfectly well what is going on.
Protests will actually fuel MAGA self-righteousness and likely get people shot or imprisoned. We absolutely need to do something but we can’t flail around.
We are in the minority still but the strategy I believe is to find your local group of Democrats where you will find they are organized and need help getting out the word and rallying up awareness. I am attending my local group meeting in two weeks and I'm protesting locally at Plymouth Rock in Plymouth MA. Both events found thru a meeting with Common Cause which after the meeting hooked me up with all the local events and my local group of activists. Just sharing as it gives me some direction. No one can do this one alone.
I talked to my daughter tonight. She lives in Alabama and supports trump. I live in Virginia and I am a Democrat. We ended up fighting right off the bat. She said the people who were fired were not working, that they worked from home and did not do their jobs. 😳. I told her that was not true, that the Administration wanted to get rid of civil servants and that this was all laid out in Project 2025. She almost hung up on me. We switched to talking about my great grandsons. 🤦🏻♀️
I know I have brothers and sisters who are MAGA, and no word of politics can be exchanged. Once you have identified the MAGA, (first anyone who is in favor of freeing the White Supremacists who led the assault on the capitol,) you can only hope that they will be spared in this conflict.
I have those discussions with my 53 year old son I am 78 and we definitely disagree he is a member of the cult he is a truck driver and wants cheaper gas , I get so angry with him !I guess neither one of us will agree with each other !
My daughter is also 53 and is
Manager of the payroll department and a lot of other things for a huge trucking company. She is just like your son. However, Trump’s plans will hurt them eventually and they will wake up.
Worse!
unkind
I will absolutely be keeping up with every single thing he does and my reps are hearing about them every day too
No no we can’t retreat! That’s what Trump is counting on! Sorry James I wholeheartedly disagree. Don’t comply! Resist!
We cannot disengage!!!!! The citizens should be telling their Congress members daily their opinions!
Jim, as well meaning as Carville may be, he is talking a bunch of irrelevancies while you have a five alarm fire happening in Washington. Steve Schmidt advances the thesis that Democrats must oppose everything that Trump is doing and negotiate nothing until musk has been removed and there has been compliance with court orders Listen to his most recent podcast as it is right on the money given the constitutional crisis which your country is now facing. Make no mistake, all of the chaos that Trump is creating is by design, and he will be soon saying he needs to be granted more power to control the chaos which he has created. This is a typical fascist tactic to consolidate power. Unfortunately, most Americans do not know history well, and so they are understandably befuddled with what is going on. But make no mistake, all mechanisms which your constitution can implement are required at this time and foremost among that given The Republican control of the Senate Congress and the conservative leaning court, it means the Democrats must stand up and oppose everything to Trump is doing and allow no money matters whatsoever to be passed by the Congress. If that means shutting down government, then so be it. As well I firmly believe that all well meaning American citizens must turn out in masses to oppose the chaos which Trump has created. Not to do so may well be a fatal blow to your constitution and your republic.
Best regards,
A Canadian citizen
My hope and dream when we do, and we will, and it will be bloody, that our allies march along with us from their posts. If America falls other democracies will follow suit. We are obliged to overcome this threat to our democracy which has gone beyond a threat for our children and our allies. I hope our allies will support us and not judge us for our POTUS and the criminals who have been given access.
There is no room for error in governing. And there is not an option to stay home rather than vote for any election. The Republicans had the chance to impeach Trump after the obscenity that was January 6, and to the level he would be ineligible to run for any office. They dodged and obstructed Democrats from bringing it home. And many of us did not vote in what may have been the last free and fair election; the last we will ever enjoy.
So, here we are today, he is back and a clear an present danger who on day one when he pardoned the insurrectionists made it clear he is not governing a nation ruled by law and order and will not himself be constrained by any law. That action when he refuses to comply with any court order strikes at our democracy like a person hit with a fatal stroke. It's over. And we go to the streets. The push back will be cruel and bloody but my hope despite sadness it has come to this is we do it and succeed.
My hope is that the resistance can be organiz3ed quickly. Trump already has his brownshirts from teh pardoned Jan 6 crew of criminals and they are true believers in him. I truly hope that the American people who did not vote for what is now happening will quickly find some leadership in a younger generation of Democrats in Washington that will organize the resitance. But Schummer and Jeffries do not seem to have seen teh light on what is happending. Democrats do have power as GOP do not have only a slim majority in the house. Democrats must oppose, oppose, oppose before teh media every day and focus on the abuses of power and not be overwhelmed with teh distractions that Trump creates daily. Focus is critical. If Trump continues to flout the law and the courts then my hope would be the military who have taken an oath to the coonsitution would refuse any orders from the present POTUS - voices must ring out across your nation loud and clear so that people will hear and understand what is happening to your Republic under Trump. The current state of traditional media has unfortunately been co-opted by Trump and his oligraghs so it is up to the growing alternate media to carry the message loud and clear to the people. Many Canadians have been deeply offended by your current POTUS but we understand that he is a dangerous abberation in your country and a grave threat to democracies around teh world. Our western democracies must unite not against the United States but against your POTSU and support the American people who by the slimmist of margins voted the Anti-Christ into teh Whitehouse. Teh Democrats share in responsiblity for that but now is not the time to cast stones at them. It is time to fight for your democracy for your children and grandchildren.
Your comments are excellent guidance, and you were generous in putting so much time and thought into it. I will restack both your messages for more of us to see. The phones are ringing off the wall in Congress but as per AOC recent message we need to keep up the pressure.
The resistance is rising. We do have fight in our DNA and there is a visceral reaction to our freedom being attacked. We are unifying though. If anything, Trump has united the country, he and his media hacks so brilliantly had divided.
We were a different people before 2016. We could talk politics, and it was civil as well as a chance for a humorous jab no matter how passionate. I remember my parents never agreed on who to vote for in elections and I enjoy the memory of them going back and forth on issues. Mom had the best come backs. It was fun but they never missed a vote.
Trump divided us. It was a strategy conceived by Bannon who described it openly in an interview and proudly too. Fox News is ridiculous but very destructive. We are a large and diverse country, but we were united. As the old WWII adage went that my mother often repeated, "Now is the time for all good people to come to the aid of their country."
Together people across the globe can do anything. I don't know why I was born to see this time, and sadder still to see my child enter adulthood at this time, but we are resilient and indominable, and when we unite nothing will stop us. Everyone fears the army Trump has assembled will only add to the danger but we will come out of it okay.
One thing our representatives need to do is immediately start drafting legislature and changes that will prevent this from ever happening again. Our democracy and our Constitution have been tested. We must shore up both and make them stronger than before all this started.
Maybe you should do so also in Canada. There are weaknesses in what we wrongly believe is unbreakable until they are broken.
Thank you for your comment. I certainly cannot take credit for all the ideas presented many of which come from Steve Schmidt's Substack, which I recommend you check out. He has a great sense of history and provides thoughtful directions to fight against the ongoing coup in your country.
Breaking News: A lawsuit on behalf of the American people has been filed:
https://substack.com/@kristian112245/note/c-92374691?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=rfr9f
I sincerely pray that it will not come to that.
How is this helpful? Seriously Jim. This is Independent news now. This sounds like legacy media whitewashing. James is telling us to basically back off and 'Retreat.' So very dem of him. That's what they do. And that's why we are here in this unprecedented, unsurprising, yet devastating and terrifying moment in time. None of this is helpful. In fact, it's unacceptable. Invite AOC or Jasmine Crocket, Buttigieg, and/ or all of them. Invite Justin Jones on. No more 80 year old white men. Stop with this kind of interview. Forgive me for my crassness, but these are dire times and James participated greatly for the rise of corporate Democrats who are equally also profoundly responsible for the rise of rumpism. They (dems) are also Oligarchs, have been for a long time now. We need new fresh younger energy than James, with all due respect. This type of guest makes me want to unsubscribe from my upgrade, get a refund. This is no time to be messing around with guests on your show telling us to 'retreat.' I encourage you, Jim, to shake off quick the legacy media wiring and way, and if you are going to go Independent, please take cues from MeidasTouch and the rise of these, and other amazing trailblazers.
Carville is a self serving fool.
And Jim is not looking good to me to keep watching. Wish I could cancel my paid subscription. He needs to get with program that he's not on legacy media anymore and stop interviewing this old way dem. Ugh.
Please Jim and James you must watch what an insider says their strategy has been
https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000009968320/dont-believe-him.html?smid=url-share
That was exceptional work.
I thought was good, too.
Mr. Carville brought us Bill Clinton the dawn of corporate Democrats. Be quiet, you old geezer.
I think “old geezer” should come out of your sentence, but you are correct. This is not the same situation he faced back in day. Politicians were not like trump, whether Republican or Democrat.
yes, let's keep age out of this discussion -- I am six years younger than Mr. Carville -- how dare you call him and me by proxy an old geezer -- okay I'll forgive you -- but just making a point -- it is so tiring being defined by my age -- a number!
Yes, it's been mentioned today in The Atlantic article as well as in the Borowitz report, " even Richard Nixon complied with Court Orders" with Trump, no one knows if he will because DT believes he doesn't have to and has been successful already in acting ABOVE the Law.
Of course, Trump by not complying with a court order sets a precedent and sinks us into a state of living in a nation where democracy has fallen, and we are no longer ruled by law and order. Every POTUS is subjected to court orders. Some good Executive Orders (many written by Biden) are crushed in that way and not one POTUS has ever risked democracy over an Executive Order.
I am an old geezer, too. I took the liberty of calling Carville the same. I would have called him much worse.
I am a Boomer, born in 1949. I won’t call myself a geezer. I am not young, obviously. I just believe in showing respect for people who have served us in the past. This an entirely different situation from anything anyone has experienced before. Trump has gone rogue. He should be treated as such.
I agree completely, Virginia. I learn when I listen it does not to me present a threat if someone else has another opinion. We need to learn how to have discussions. It is a discussion not a threat. And, look how lucky we are to be able to post during the discussion. I feel lucky at any rate. Born 1952.
I won't belabor the point.. Except I don't believe Carville has served us. Repeal of Glass-Steagall and Clinton's "welfare reform" were no gifts. Carville brought us a sexual predator and began the abandonment of the working class.
I don’t remember all of that. I was a Republican then. I became a Democrat in 2016 because I could not vote for sexual predator trump. I voted for Hillary.
I lived over that time. Nothing compares to Trump. Politics has always been a dirty business. But the subject is Trump today and the guest has a good reputation live a long life and has experience. I disagree with him but I'm not going to run him down just because I have an audience. It to me is like sneaking off to the kitchen while everyone is in the living room and gossiping about a guest. It just not good form. Sorry -- maybe I'm wrong. My instinct is to keep things civil and be civil toward our guest.
same generation only a bit younger than our guest, Mr. Carver -- but none of us should be called old geezers -- none of us -- especially if it is a disagreement -- this is a discussion -- everyone's voice counts -- even our guest -- especially a guest -- we get nowhere without civility -- just my preference personally -- civility
Mollys pet peeves, or as you prefer “old geezer” please keep ageism out of your insults of James Carville. Its deprecating and no different from any other bias or prejudice. You could make the argument on the substance even if you are a self identifying old geezer: that is no excuse for cheap shots!! Get your geezer on girl or you may lose the bingo prize and the rice pudding!! Thanks
Is this you growing through interacting with others? 🤫
Would love to see some fresh, credible voices, in the ring now, rising to this moment and inspiring people. I get that Carville is a classic guest. But was his message that America should just fold its tent? Failure is truly not an option.
AOC made an amazing view with advice on what we can do and how to do it. I love her. She knits while she speaks to her constituents and us. I'll locate it Klara and come back.
Hear this from AOC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&feature=shared&v=CVgNJf6CsBA&fbclid=IwY2xjawIXmRJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHYRVy7e7dureZqXR54Rc6PpOq1zNJ-mp8JEQzRdbe1lrrO6EhLj3oawjHg_aem__yE4n4x_zUshNxgBDT_0zQ
thanks, she's great
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Jim your comments at the end were the best part of the show. We are fighting now for THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE. This must be our rallying cry. This “trumps” all are smaller (dare I say petty) grievances about social justice in all its myriad forms! NO.
THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE is under the jackboot of the religious fundamentalist crusaders and we must fight our way back. We are legion they are a few.
In our schools and especially HIGH SCHOOL -they are a minority we are legion
-In our civic activity and town centers and county seats state government
-they are a minority we are legion
-yes- our federal government—they are a minority we are legion
THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE
YES YES YES
WE WILL STAND UP AND BE COUNTED
. they who promote the anti American activity of hatred of others outside their radical ideologies are a minority We who are every day folk and lovers of our AMERICAN WAYNOF LIF are legion
And in your gentle informed way lead us by example, Jim. You did not run down our guest and instead made room for his opinion before firmly expressing to us your opinion with a bow toward Carter's admission of feeling panicked. A different opinion does not make another person my enemy. I can still hold my own and act on my own.
He said nothing about Musk
20 Attorney General led by Letitia James here in NYC have just dropped multiple lawsuits that stop Musk and compel him to destroy what info he stole from the Treasury. If Musk doesn't comply, I hope the order his arrest.
ThankGod for Ms James!